When we're children we believe in magic but as you get older skepticism takes over. But it's a different story for people who run into The Cardman at San Quentin State Prison.
Rodney Wiley: Like I'll be tampering with people's minds. I really do be tampering with their minds. Right now you are going to be taking two cards again, okay. And we are going to see how this is going to work.
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The San Quentin Prison Report is a partnership between KALW and San Quentin that trains inmates to be radio journalists.