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The Spot: Closer Than They Appear

Dec 10, 2017

This week on KALW's showcase for the best stories from public radio podcasts and independent radio producers...

Episode 1: How Did I Get Here?,” from the podcast Closer Than They Appear produced by Jetty Studios, November 2017.

Earlier this year, Al Jazeera launched their own podcast network, Jetty, based here in San Francisco. Their debut show, Closer Than They Appear is hosted by local writer Carvell Wallace, who has a theory that maybe the United States is just 320 million people who all need to talk with someone they're afraid to. And in the podcast, he does just that. 

Carvell speaks with people whose names you might recognize, like Van Jones and Shereen Merisol Meraji, as well as his actual family members, about what it means to belong. What it means to be American, and to become American.

The whole show is meant to be heard in chronological order, so today, we’ll start with the first episode. Oscar-winning actor and Bay Area native Mahershala Ali joins Carvell to talk about family, America, and grace.

Listen to more episodes at and subscribe to the show wherever you prefer to listen to your podcasts: Apple, Stitcher, and RadioPublic

This week's episode featured music from: Black Moth Super RainbowBooker T. & The M.G.’s, and The Bombillas.

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Tune in next week for another episode of The Spot, only on KALW San Francisco.