This conversation aired in the October 15, 2025 episode of Crosscurrents.
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KALW and the Society of Professional Journalists of Northern California recently hosted a night centering the lived experiences of the Afghan refugee community. It was at our live event space in Downtown San Francisco, as part of our series ‘The Bay Agenda.’
The evening included a film screening, and a discussion hosted by KALW Executive Producer Ben Trefny.
His guests included Dr. Sedique Popal an Associate Professor at the University of San Francisco, and Malalai Wiar, an educator at Refugee and Immigrant Transitions in SF. Here’s an excerpt from that discussion.